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Street Self Defense: Trust in Your Training

July 22nd, 2009 · Comments · Street Self Defense

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Quite recently I was forced to intervene in a fight between two of my closest friends. A few of us were drinking at another friends house, seemingly having a good time, just chilling and chatting as you do when suddenly it all kicked of.

One of my friends, who I shall call Joe (not his real name), had had too much to drink and for some reason he decided to kick one of the other guys in the face for no reason at all.

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My other friend, who I shall call John, tried to calm Joe down a bit but Joe was having none of it. I could see the red mist rising in him and I knew the situation was going to descend into a nightmare, as indeed it did.

Joe punched John in the face for getting involved and then the two of them went at it like prize fighters, trading blow for blow.

At this point I was just starting to realise what was going on, because I had missed the kick of. There I was, chatting away, nice and relaxed, when violence suddenly reared its ugly head and I felt the adrenaline kick in straight away. I ran over to the two of them and pulled them apart, shouting at them to calm down, nobody wants this, you’re mates, the usual things you say in such situations.

Joe was not for calming down. Like I said the red mist had completely blinded him to all sense and reason. He was like a man possessed and there was no calming him down. The best I could do was put him in a head lock and take him down to the ground and hold him there. The problem with that was John kicking him as I was holding him. So I spring up and push John away, at which point Joe jumps up and starts again, this time on me, accusing me of taking sides.

What do you do? I didn’t want to hit him; he was one of my closet friends. As far as I’m concerned it was my job to try and calm things down, not inflict more damage. Unfortunately Joe didn’t see it like that and threw a load of punches at me. I took a few of them before grappling him down to the ground again, pinning him this time and hoping he would calm down.

Then John would run again and I would have to get up and do the same with him. And back and forth for a good hour it

Fear and doubt often get the better of us when it comes to dealing with violence but trusting in your training can help to overcome that.
went, with me holding one down while trying to keep the other away.

In the end it was John who finally walked away. Things finally settled down. All three of us were bruised and battered. I had a cut eye, a busted lip and bruises all over me from all the grappling on concrete. Needless to say I was sore for the next few days.

Joe and John are still not talking, at least not properly.

Lessons Learned

Most people just shook their heads when they heard about this situation. They kept asking me why I didn’t just knock the two of them out. I was reminded of the fact that I was a martial artist and that I could’ve done it easily.

That’s certainly true, it wouldn’t have been hard for me to knock them out or choke them out and leave them lying there in a heap. But why would I do that? These guys are two of my closest friends and I’m not in the habit of hitting my friends for any reason. It may seem silly to some, but I was prepared to take whatever they threw at me until I could put a stop to the fighting. Hitting them back would have made me as bad as them for fighting in the first place. Someone had to take the moral high ground.

People think that just because you know how to hurt someone that you have do so when someone comes at you, which isn’t always the case. I’m not in the habit of hitting first and asking questions later. As far as I was concerned I was almost duty bound to not hit Joe or John. I wouldn’t really have been defending myself, but fighting. By putting myself in the middle of them I was getting in the road of their drink-fuelled tempers. The red mist was everywhere. Both of them were out of control. It was my job to bring them back under control again and minimise the damage, not add to it. Damage control, I guess you could say.

I did use my training to an extent. I used it to control them, to take them down and hold them there. I just took a few shots in the process. The training also allowed me to keep my head and not panic. It was certainly a testing situation, especially when it’s your friends involved, but I kept a handle on it. The other people that were there (some of whom tried to get involved but were immediately stopped by me) said the situation would have been much worse had I not been there to contain it. It would have ended up as a free for all and more people would have gotten hurt.

In the end I stayed in control, which is what self defense is all about, keeping control of yourself and the situation as much as possible, not making it worse by allowing your pride or ego to get in the way and lead you down the wrong path.

What I was reminded of by being in this situation was firstly that fights happen when you least expect them and that you can never really be ready for them. The test is how quickly you can react to them (especially when you’re intoxicated) and how well you can keep your head during them. How well you can do this depends on how much control you have over the situation. The more control you can exert over yourself and the others involved, the better the situation will turn out.

Secondly, I was reminded that alcohol has a very bad effect on some people. Some people just shouldn’t drink because it makes them loose all control over themselves. Now I don’t really subscribe to the view that alcohol is to blame for people’s behaviour. People are to blame for their own behaviour. Substances like alcohol just bring out what is already there, and for that reason I won’t listen to those who try to absolve themselves of responsibility by blaming this or that. If you are that way inclined and alcohol or whatever brings your aggression to the surface then stop using it. Either that or except the fact that you are going to get in serious trouble some day over it.

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Thirdly, I was reminded of the power of fear. Like most people, I don’t spend all my time fighting. Situations like the one I described above rarely arise in my life. During the long gaps between these confrontations you tend to let fear and doubt get the better of you. You build violent confrontation up in your head into this really scary and fearful experience, when in fact it is not as bad as your mind likes to make out most of the time. Yes you’re still afraid of getting hurt but you can usually handle violent situations better than you think, especially if you just let the training take over. Even getting hit isn’t that bad. It’s good exposure training. What matters is what you learn from the experience.

I learned to trust the training, which is reason enough to keep going.

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  • Hi Neal,

    I've had a few of these situations in my life and there is never an easy answer. The first time it happened (not to compare your friends with dogs) I was visiting my brother in the desert. He lived in a trailer in the middle of nowhere. A kid with a dober/dane cross dog happened by named Tiger. My brothers dog, Diablo (the devil), a shepard/dobie started growling. My brother and the kid started talking whose dog could take who and before I knew it the dogs were fighting!

    Now all I saw was how my brother took advantage of this kid's naivety and soon the Tiger chomped Diablo and Diablo flipped out and chomped Tiger. The kid started screaming!

    I was injured and out of work for a week after sparring and getting my siadic nerve struck... barley walking with one side of my body functional (at least one leg worked well).

    I took matters into my own hand and punched Diablo in the kidneys and yelled at him. He stopped his attack. Tiger chomped Diablo at that point and I punched Tiger in the kidney and yelled at him. Tiger stopped and Diablo ran around Tiger and started attacking again... another punch and then the dogs finally stopped.

    I was going to have to hurt them if they did not but generally dog respond well to negative reinforcement (at least in the short run).

    Now for people... I was with my brother again (are you catching on to a theme?), with a group of my friends climbing a mountain for an over night stay. This was Joshua Tree National Park, Queen Mountain. It was dry and we where not allowed to make a fire. I don't remember why I wanted to invite my brother but I did anyway.

    As we were hiking, he was having a hard time keeping up as he was working on a bottle of whiskey! He finally made it up to the top of the mountain and he broke out the tequila! By the time we were ready to pull out the sleeping bags - he was talking to a cactus - thinking it was his girl friend.

    He came to me and wanted matches to smoke. I thought about it and realized if he dropped a match and started a fire during the night - we had no escape... we would have burned up in our sleep.

    I told him no and he got mad at me. He was about to hit me and I pretended to agree with him and then sucker punched him - knocked him out. I was not about to stay awake during the night which would have been the other alternative.

    He woke up in a while and realized even in his abbreviated state that he should not push the issue...

    There were more like issues but I have a couple of thoughts... If I wanted to back people away (and I was not worried about property damage like a living room) I'd side kick the guys at first to keep them back... if that did not work I'd aim lower into the thigh or counter punch the solar plexus... both of those strikes would take the fight out of them if they landed.

    Again as I said in the beginning - there was no good answer and grappling would certainly work if the other stopped engaging.

    Sorry for the book but you jogged my memories.
  • Thanks for the stories, John. I'll keep your advice in mind for the future. Though if there's one thing all this teaches us it's that life is full of surprises and you never know when these incidents are going to arise- always when you least expect it! I bet you never thought you'd end up fighting two dogs!
  • I've seen this type of situation arise from alcohol abuse and it is very unfortunate (and that's coming from someone who enjoys drinking).

    You were in a tough spot and the really bad thing is that you didn't have one more person around to help. In the red mist, as you call it, there really is no negotiation that will work. You needed your hands and another set to separate these two for awhile. different rooms, different conversations, and a long stint of time.

    You did your best. The only real options I see are this - while one guy was down, you could try to take the other guy and isolate him in a lockable room. Either that or find something to bind his hands/feet so that you could control the other guy.

    These are very much hindsight suggestions though - I only recommend them because it seems like the encounter took a long time and you might have had a chance to clear your head and act on them.

    All the best in a speedy recovery to you and your friends - if anything this can prove what a powerful altered state alcohol can provide.
  • Another pair of hands would have been very helpful but unfortunately the only other people there were women, one of whom was my wife, who I was trying to protect as well. In the end, it could have been worse. I learned from the experience. No experience is ever wasted on me. Every situation is a learning opportunity and you can apply those lessons to your training so that you will be better able to deal with such situations if they ever arise again.

    I enjoy a drink as well, but some people should just avoid it altogether.
  • kieron
    There is normally some indication that things are going to kick-off but the gap between the build-up and the first blow can be very short when alcohol is involved.

    I think you should not have jumped into the fight if you were not prepared to use effective levels of force as you could have been hurt. That said your initial efforts could have broken the fight up BUT once it was clear that they were both determined to continue the fight you should have just stepped to one side and remained there unless one of your friends was in danger of serious injury. If that happened then you would have needed to act but in an effective way.

    Hindsight is always better though and I know that in the middle of a situation like that it is easy to get sucked in despite good intentions. I think as part of a Martial Artist's training it is essential to run through possible scenarios in you mind and think about what you would do. Then if you're unlucky enough to end up there you don't have to come up with a plan, you know the plan and can act without hesitation. This kind of forward planning combined with being switched-on and aware of the possible threat level in any situation are worth as much physical skill.

    Finally, your friends sound like dicks. Fighting for nothing, attacking you, attacking each other when the other person was pinned by you. Yep very dick-ish behaviour.
  • I have to agree, my friends exhibited very "dick-ish" behaviour that night, as do we all occasionally, especially when drink is involved. At one point I did step back and leave them to it, having had enough and thinking that if I did they would eventually just stop, but unfortunately one of them got kicked in the head and knocked out so I had to intervene again.

    As for being aware, I always have a certain level of awareness no matter where I am. To an extent I have forward planned in my head most situations but the unpredictability factor of these situations sometimes messes that up and you have to go with the flow.
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